Managers Countdown: Dennis Wise & Dave Mackay

I’ve reached Swindon managers No.24 Dennis Wise and No.23 Dave Mackay.

Perhaps, like me initially, you had thought Wise and Mackay might have been higher in this countdown. Instead they’re both in the bottom third of my list of the good, the bad and the ugly Swindon managers throughout the years.

No.24 | Dennis Wise | Manager May to October 2006 | 206.7 Points

Wise came, he won a fair few games (including the first six on the bounce) and then buggered off at nearly the first opportunity to Leeds United, taking Gus Poyet with him. If only Gus stayed behind…

Yes Dennis Wise got caught in the boardroom power struggle when Bill Power withdrew his investment in September 2006 and then the knives were out when the finances started to untangle themselves. Yes Wise was far from delighted when director Bob Holt made public a private meeting whereby the former had “pledged his immediate future to Swindon” following the vacancy at Leeds. However, Wise was never going to turn down a chance to link up with grizzly old bear Ken Bates at Elland Road and walked out on his 3 year contract after only a few months.

Wise’s league record of 31 points from 15 games remains the actual best points per game ratio of any manager (2.07 per game), however did you think that just because of this he’d be higher? As he lost in the League Cup and didn’t stay around long enough for the FA Cup he couldn’t pick up enough points to get out of the bottom 20.

Good, Bad or Ugly? – Good at first, then an ugly departure – It’s just a shame he couldn’t stay around for long enough to finish off the job with promotion.

  • Leagues: 1 season in League Two
  • FA Cup: Not entered
  • League Cup: 1 tie & 1 defeat
  • Achievements: None
League Pld Won Drn Lst For Agg League Pts P/G League Score FAC Score FLC Score
15 9 4 2 22 11 31 2.1 206.67 0.00 0
TOTAL SCORE: 206.7

No.23 | Dave Mackay | Manager November 1971 to November 1972 | 212.3 Points

Of all our managers who’ve taken charge of games in the 2nd tier, legendary Hearts, Spurs and Derby player Dave Mackay comes 10th, just in front of Jimmy Quinn and Colin Todd.

from nottinghamforest.co.uk

Mackay is somewhat similar to Wise and Todd insofar here was another manager who never held the Club at heart. After resigning for “personal reasons”, Mackay turned up at Nottingham Forest a week later. He was never a popular appointment with the Town supporters and his exit merely confirmed it.

Taking over from Fred Ford in November 1971, Mackay eventually took Town from relegation candidates in Division Two to a respectable 11th placed finish.

As for the story of 1972/73, the selling of Don Rogers and Mackay’s departure, I’ve already covered this a few weeks back in Surviving the Drop 1972/73.

Post Swindon Mackay left Forest to join Derby after the departure of Clough, bringing the League Championship to Derby County in 1975 and then a semi final defeat to Real Madrid in the 1976 European Cup. Mackay then took in 8 other positions from Walsall to Kuwait, Birmingham to Eygpt, Qatar to retirement in 1997.

Good, Bad or Ugly? – Ugly – Unpopular as a player and this continued under his management. You can’t expect any manager who sells Don Rogers and then a matter of days later buggers of to Nottingham Forest to get anything other than ugly…

  • Leagues: 2 seasons in Division Two
  • FA Cup: 1 tie | 3rd Round defeat
  • League Cup: 1 tie | 2nd Round defeat
  • Achievements: None
League Pld Won Drn Lst For Agg League Pts P/G League Score FAC Score FLC Score
43 14 13 16 58 63 55 1.3 212.33 0.00 0
TOTAL SCORE: 212.3

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Click here for a full list of the managers in the countdown so far and their scores, including an explanation of how the scoring works.

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